The Physics of Superheroes, a book by author and physicist James Kakalios, delves into the scientific probability of superhero comic books. To differentiate her from the main universe Spider-Woman, she is commonly referred to as Spider-Gwen. In short, it was impossible for Peter to save her. [1][2] The Goblin and Spider-Man clash, and the Goblin hurls Stacy off the bridge. And I think I wasn't thinking too clearly, because when they said, 'We'd like to kill Gwen Stacy,' I said, 'Well, if that's what you want to do, okay.' In Gwen Stacy’s death Comic Gwen Stacy’s death is dedicated to the 121st and 122nd episodes of the comic series The Amazing Spider-Man, released in the summer of 1973. Death of Gwen Stacy. She was later killed by the Ultimate version of Carnage, who drained her of her blood for her DNA. It turns out the death as depicted has its roots in real-world science. The following issue, Spider-Man tracks the Green Goblin to a warehouse and beats him but cannot bring himself to kill him. Topics range from the Flash and friction caused by his intense superhuman speeding to whether Ant-Man could really shrink down to his microscopic size. At some point Peter stopped using his fabric costume and built himself a similar looking suit of armor (similar to Iron Man). Keeping in mind that the actual weight of Gwen’s body can multiply to about ten times its force when falling at such heights, Spider-Man was just not at the proper distance to be able to save her - a half-second stop enforced upon someone plummeting 95 miles per hour could definitely snap their neck. from What If #24. Iron Man argued that if Spider-Man had received proper training as registered heroes were given, he would have saved her, while Captain America argued that Gwen was only in danger because the Goblin knew Spider-Man's identity, the Act requiring heroes to register their identities with the government. The go-to source for comic book and superhero movie fans. Previously, it had been unthinkable to kill off such an important character—the girlfriend of a protagonist with a large fanbase. But now, Gwen Stacy's Ghost-Spider is reliving the event. 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Whoever lost Lenore doesn't necessarily blame themselves for the death, but this feeling of self-blame and assumed responsibility is a key defining criterion for a Gwen Stacy. Script writer Gerry Conway is remembered by many as "the writer who killed Gwen" (even though obviously Stan Lee himself okayed a story of this significance). As he pulls her up, he thinks he has saved her, however he quickly realizes she is dead. Some reprints of the issue have had the text amended and now state the bridge to be the Brooklyn Bridge rather than the George Washington Bridge. So don't blame Gerry. The two-issue story, written by Gerry Conway, with pencil art by Gil Kane and inking by John Romita Sr. and Tony Mortellaro, features Spider-Man's fight against his nemesis, the Green Goblin. In this particular scuffle though, they end up atop a clock tower where Green Goblin, although not directly, causes Gwen Stacy to fall off, plunging to her death. Somehow, we'd never read The Death of Gwen Stacy for the show, so we rectified that by reading Amazing Spider-Man #121 & 122. Also, Harry Osborn, Parker's best friend and Norman's son, became addicted to drugs and was sequestered in the Osborn home for detoxification. [14], As John Romita Sr. recalls, Stan Lee's initial reaction towards Gwen Stacy's death was negative because he thought that Romita, Conway and Thomas had done it behind his back and he demanded that they bring her back immediately. Romita proposed to kill the latter as the former served as a comical character at the time, taking inspiration of the decisions to kill off character from Milton Caniff, author of the Terry and the Pirates and Steve Canyon comic strips. A fall from that height would kill anyone — before they struck the ground!" Gwen Stacy's darkest secret was that she actually had a brief relationship with Norman Osborn, giving birth to his two children. A note on the letters page of The Amazing Spider-Man #125 states: "It saddens us to say that the whiplash effect she underwent when Spidey's webbing stopped her so suddenly was, in fact, what killed her."[1]. At the time, a superhero only failed as part of … Gwen has one of the most famous — and most permanent — deaths in comic book history, and her murder leaves an important impact on Peter Parker. So, sadly, Peter Parker did end Gwen Stacy's life, even though she would have perished anyway without his intervention. Different bridges are depicted in subsequent adaptations of the storyline. There was no way out.". [8][9][10] The comic book Civil War: Casualties of War: Captain America/Iron Man (2007) concurred that the proximate cause of death was the sudden stop during a high-speed fall. An alternate version of the character did appear in the series finale, voiced by Mary Kay Bergman. An issue of Peter Parker: Spider-Man revisits the issue, and further confirms Gwen died of a broken neck due to the use of the webbing. Other than the death of his beloved Uncle Ben, donning tight spandex and web-slinging through the streets of New York had never significantly … Later, a devastated Parker, back at home, encounters an equally shocked and saddened Mary Jane Watson, who has lost a close friend with Gwen's death, and the two attempt to comfort each other in the wake of their loss. Killing Gwen Stacy was a perfect opportunity to kill two birds with one stone: breaking up the "unfitting" relationship and reinforcing the element of personal tragedy which was, in his opinion, the essence of Spider-Man. But, she wasn't the only person who was aware of this controversial event. His father Normanis livid about Harry's condition, blames Peter, Gwen, and Mary Jane for Harry's drug abuse, and throws them out. In fact, she dies … Numerous Marvel writers and editors, however, lobbied for Stacy to remain dead, forcing Quesada and Straczynski to discard their idea upon frustratingly realizing that they were outnumbered. Had the Green Goblin already killed her before the fall? Alas, Poor Scrappy: Gwen's death invoked this reaction to the extent that people have forgotten that she was a Base-Breaking Character before her death. This was something she managed to hide from Peter Parker, until she died. On a happier note, many later writers have taken pains to stress that Spider-Man learned from this error, and he now arrests falls with multiple points of contact or web-nets, meaning that not only did the scene draw from real-life science, but so did Spider-Man's solutions in future stories. The night Gwen Stacy died has a lasting impact on the comicbook community. Before the comic was published, people never died. However, the web snapped Gwen's neck, killing her. Gwen Stacy’s death is one of the most famous examples of WiR, becoming a template when discussing female treatment in comics. She told him that the party was going to start soon and he should get ready, and the old costume was a nice touch she t… On most occasions, he saves them by jumping after them and working with their momentum, rather than trying to stop them with his webbing (as he did in the What If? Peter just wasn't ready. The Goblin uses the opportunity to send his glider to impale Spider-Man from behind. Kakalios assesses whether Gwen Stacy would really have died the way she did after Spidey caught her. When Norman hears that he is facing financial ruin, he suffers a breakdown, and suddenly remembers everything. Inker John Romita Sr. recalled in a 2015 interview how the character to be killed off for what became The Night Gwen Stacy Died was selected. Inker John Romita Sr. recalled in a 2015 interview how the character to be killed off for what became The Night Gwen Stacy Died was selected. Gwen's death was simply fated to happen. At some point Gwen became the fiancée of wealthy industrialist Peter Parker, the superhero Spider-Man. Don't blame anyone. Unsure whether her neck was broken by the whiplash from her sudden stop or had been already broken by the Goblin prior to her fall, he blames himself for her death. She is the fiancée of Spider-Man's high-tech armored counterpart in a parallel universe, and the primary version of Spider-Man meets Gwen for the first time. In another storyline, the Green Goblin once again replays the scenario, this time with Spider-Man's wife Mary Jane Watson-Parker. "[17], Fans were not appeased by this explanation, and Romita says that Marvel received some death threats. • Gwen Stacy was deliberately excluded from the 1990s Spider-Man animated series as the creators felt they could neither allow her to live nor deliberately include a character who was going to die. Her death signified the end of innocence and the beginning of a darker time for comics. [citation needed]. Gwen Stacy's early life is mostly unknown. So Gerry, Roy and Stan debated the question... All had reached the same inescapable conclusion. Norman again becomes the Green Goblin and makes it his goal to kill Peter/Spider-Man … That was helped in no small part by her father, police Captain George Stacy, approving of his daughter's boyfriend and providing Peter with yet another doomed father figure who would be tragically torn from his life. Spiderman immediately shoots his web to catch her, which it does, but just at she hits the ground. marriage or at least Peter revealing his secret identity to her) would "betray everything that Spider-Man was about", i.e. Author and physicist James Kakalios delves into the scientific probability of how Gwen Stacy died when the Green Goblin tossed her off a bridge. Gwen's death shocked Spider-Man readers, with some appreciating the bold move and others horrified by the unexpected demise of a popular character. [15] Among the changes to continuity going as far back as 1971, Straczynski's original script had, as a consequence of Mephisto erasing Spider-Man's and Mary Jane's marriage from reality, Gwen Stacy being restored to life as her death never happened as well her affair with Norman Osborn.[16]. There was life before the death! The death of Gwen Stacy is an iconic comic book event: thrown from atop the George Washington Bridge by the Green Goblin with Spider-Man coming just moments shy of preventing her demise. Just a different way to tell that story." It was the first big shocking death in comics (perhaps even ushering in the bronze age!). "Basically [my trilogy idea] was the telling of the Gwen Stacy/Harry Osbourne story but I spaced everything out differently," Koepp said. However, when looking at her death from a storytelling perspective, it is a little more well-written than other examples of WiR. Special thanks to Uatu who hooked us up with … [17], Civil War: Casualties of War: Captain America/Iron Man, Spider-Man In The 100 Greatest Marvels Of All Time, "John Romita Sr. Kevin is a deceased character in Marvel Rising: Initiation. Although not directly related with Gwen Stacy, her death from the 616 universe was paid homage to early in the series. Gwen Stacy in this universe was a friend of Peter Parker who was taken in by Aunt May after her father, George Stacy, was killed. Mike Cuenca is an award-winning writer, director, editor, and musician. The plot arch, written by Jerry Conway, is called “The Night Gwen Stacy Died.” The comic authors understandably concealed the title of the story until the last page. In the fourth issue of Marvels, it was reported that she died from the shock of the fall, however Phil, a photographer and witness, is unsure about exactly what kills her. Reflects on His Spider-Man Legacy, Gwen Stacy's Death and Stan Lee", "The Physics of Superheroes - Death of Gwen Stacy", "The "One More Day" Interviews with Joe Quesada, Pt. The Green Goblin kills Gwen Stacy in "The Night Gwen Stacy Died," a story that fans still talk about. And Gwen Stacy also described the affair as "something out of her control" as it could've been pheromonal or chemical seduction by Osborn. Amazing Spider-Man 121, more than any before it, ushered in a level of change that no one was prepared for. Make Offer - AMAZING SPIDER-MAN #121 Death of Gwen Stacy CGC 9.4 Off white to white pages AMAZING SPIDER-MAN #121 - DEATH OF GWEN STACY - MARVEL COMICS/1973 - CGC 8.0 $599.95 The Pulse #4 (Sept. 2004) also states the bridge to be the George Washington Bridge. All I wanted to do was get them out of the office so I could finish packing and get out of there. The later version of Carnage was drained of the Carnage element, and turned out to … As Gwen was falling her velocity kept increasing, and he hypothesis that Gwen is falling about 300 feet, going at 95 miles per hour. Events had shaped themselves in such a way that their only logical resolution was tragedy. One night, Gwen found Peter in his old costume. [11] A similar event occurs when Spider-Man saves Anna Maria—the girlfriend of Otto Octavius during a time when he was in Spider-Man's body—when Green Goblin uses her as a hostage and throws her off a building after learning that his true enemy has returned, Peter reflecting as he catches Anna Maria that he has learned over time to catch every joint in moments like this to limit potential whiplash.[12]. Titles supporting the Brooklyn Bridge include The Amazing Spider-Man #147-148 (1975), The Amazing Spider-Man Annual #21 (1987), and Daredevil v. 2 #8 (2000). And I had to be reminded later on that I had perhaps reluctantly or perhaps carelessly said 'Okay' when they asked me. Spider-Man shoots a web strand at her legs and catches her. Yes, the Green Goblin killed Gwen by dropping her from the George Washington Bridge, but was Spider-Man's intervention the thing that actually took her life? We also read "What If Spider-Man Had Rescued Gwen Stacy?" Even though all that drama, Peter and Gwen stuck together. In the 1987 edition of The Official Handbook of the Marvel Universe, Gwen's death is attributed to the fall, not to Spider-Man's webbing. She was dead before your webbing reached her! The book analyzes the famous powers and feats of popular superheroes via physics concepts and humorous observations. Gwen Stacy ( Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse Version 3 Final ) One of the biggest tragedies in Spider-Man’s career as a friendly, neighborhood superhero was the heart-shattering classic Amazing Spider-Man #122, which famously depicted the death of his longtime love interest Gwen Stacy. They organized a plot session at Conway's apartment and disagreed with killing Aunt May, opining that if she were to die, Peter would not have to worry about her anymore and be no longer treated as a child again, thus deciding to kill either Mary Jane Watsonor Gwe… A Pivotal Point In Comic History – The Gwen Stacy Death Whether you have watched The Amazing Spider-Man 2 starring Andrew Garfield and Emma Stone or have been an avid reader of comics, by now you must be aware that Gwen Stacy dies. In The Amazing Spider-Man #125 (Oct. 1973), Marvel Comics editor Roy Thomas wrote in the letters column that "it saddens us to have to say that the whiplash effect she underwent when Spidey's webbing stopped her so suddenly was, in fact, what killed her. ... and Gwen's death affected him forever. Romita and Amazing Spider-Man writer Gerry Conway were initially asked by the editors to kill off Aunt May. I was just getting ready to go to Europe on some sort of a business trip... to meet somebody to discuss something about Marvel. In a television interview for the Travel Channel's Marvel Superheroes Guide to New York City (2004), Stan Lee said that the artist for the issue had drawn the Brooklyn Bridge, but that he (as editor) mistakenly labeled it the George Washington Bridge. The other character is Gwen Stacy. The bridge in the original issue of Amazing Spider-Man #121 was stated in the text to be the George Washington Bridge. Click the button below to start this article in quick view. where he saves Gwen), most notably when he jumped off the same bridge to save Gwen's daughter, Sarah Stacy, around seven years after her death; due to accelerated aging caused by her Goblin-enhanced mutated body chemistry - Sarah's father being Norman Osborn after a brief affair between Gwen and Osborn - Sarah looks exactly like her mother. At the time, readers were unsure of what exactly happened: was it the whiplash that caused it? All the latest gaming news, game reviews and trailers. When Emma Stone took up the role of Gwen Stacy in “The Amazing Spider-Man,” fans knew it was always going to be a short-term commitment. The Night Gwen Stacy Died, a two issue story arc in The Amazing Spider-Man #121–122 (June–July 1973), took the comic book world by storm and became one of the most notable and poignant moments in the popular superhero’s history. During an altercation with the Green Goblin, Gwen Stacy is knocked from the top of the George Washington Bridge. She appeared in the 137th episode of DEATH BATTLE!, Batgirl VS Spider-Gwen, where she fought against Batgirl from DC Comics. Holding himself responsible, the event is burned into Peter Parker's mind. Please fill out the following form to report a missing variant issue from the database. They organized a plot session at Conway's apartment and disagreed with killing Aunt May, opining that if she were to die, Peter would not have to worry about her anymore and be no longer treated as a child again, thus deciding to kill either Mary Jane Watson or Gwen Stacy. The Green Goblin abducts Spider-Man's girlfriend Gwen Stacy, and she is killed during the battle. He couldn't have swung down in time; the action he did take resulted in her death; if he had done nothing, she still would certainly have perished. Generally, a superhero did not fail this disastrously unless it was part of his or her origin story. [6], In the comic book collection The 100 Greatest Marvels of All Time: #9-6 (Amazing Spider-Man #121 was the #6 comic), Conway explained that Gwen and Peter were a "perfect couple", but taking that relationship to the next level (i.e. After Jane Foster becomes the new Valkyrie, she is reminded of how Spider-Man failed to save someone in a similar situation when she is forced to use her shape-shifting weapon to catch the fatally wounded Heimdall as he falls from a building after being attacked by Bullseye, and expresses concern that her actions have made Heimdall's wounds worse, but Heimdall gives no indication that he blames Jane for his death. The lasting impact of Gwen Stacy’s death. The guilt and the heartbreak took its toll on Peter Parker, and some, including Mary Jane Watson, Peter’s later love interest, believe he never got over Gwen's death. 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